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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still traveling. I&#039;m parked in Austin, TX, right now. I&#039;ve been here for two months, longer than I usually stay anywhere, but I love Austin, and I&#039;ve gotten myself sucked into Occupy Austin and find I don&#039;t want to leave yet. But, I&#039;ll be heading west or south to Mexico in January, I think. Haven&#039;t yet planned that far ahead.

As for LA, skip it if you can. It&#039;s a hellhole for RVers. Keep going on down to San Diego, which is friendlier, though not cheaper. Venice is the only place in LA where you can park free, but it&#039;s generally unpleasant, due to harassment by police and locals. You can find lots of neighborhoods to park in, as you head out toward the suburbs, and when I was there in May of 2010, I was able to make a deal with a parking lot in Hollywood to let me park for about $30 a day, but I had to leave around 3AM...so, good for going to the clubs and such and doing the tourist stuff, but it&#039;s not a place to camp.  Last time I was in LA in April of 2011, I camped in Anaheim at one of the many RV parks surrounding Disneyland. It&#039;s not cheap, or particularly nice, and besides Disney there is nothing interesting in Anaheim, but it is at least a place to camp near LA that is free from harassment. The location I mentioned in this blog post didn&#039;t work as well the second time I visited, and I was asked to leave by police a few minutes after I parked at around 1AM, though I was able to find a few places in other neighborhoods that worked OK. You just have to be willing to move a lot, or stay very, very, very far away from anything worth seeing/doing in LA.

The next time I visit LA (if I can&#039;t avoid it), I plan to do what I did when I visited New York City and Detroit. I placed an ad on craigslist, looking for someone with a long driveway in a reasonable location, and offering to pay a few hundred bucks to park there for a few weeks. Worked out great in both cases, though I was still farther out of NYC (ended up in Ridgewood, NJ, staying with an awesome lady who&#039;s restoring an old Minnie Winnie) than I would have liked. LA has a lot more driveways than NYC, though, so I suspect I can find something there.

San Diego, on the other hand, was always fine. I parked in a couple of different neighborhoods, and never had any complaints. And also spent some time at an RV park on Mission Bay, which was nice, and only slightly overpriced, given the cost of real estate in the area. So, as southern California cities go, San Diego is better for RVers than LA, though seeing Venice and some other stuff in LA is worth doing...once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still traveling. I&#8217;m parked in Austin, TX, right now. I&#8217;ve been here for two months, longer than I usually stay anywhere, but I love Austin, and I&#8217;ve gotten myself sucked into Occupy Austin and find I don&#8217;t want to leave yet. But, I&#8217;ll be heading west or south to Mexico in January, I think. Haven&#8217;t yet planned that far ahead.</p>
<p>As for LA, skip it if you can. It&#8217;s a hellhole for RVers. Keep going on down to San Diego, which is friendlier, though not cheaper. Venice is the only place in LA where you can park free, but it&#8217;s generally unpleasant, due to harassment by police and locals. You can find lots of neighborhoods to park in, as you head out toward the suburbs, and when I was there in May of 2010, I was able to make a deal with a parking lot in Hollywood to let me park for about $30 a day, but I had to leave around 3AM&#8230;so, good for going to the clubs and such and doing the tourist stuff, but it&#8217;s not a place to camp.  Last time I was in LA in April of 2011, I camped in Anaheim at one of the many RV parks surrounding Disneyland. It&#8217;s not cheap, or particularly nice, and besides Disney there is nothing interesting in Anaheim, but it is at least a place to camp near LA that is free from harassment. The location I mentioned in this blog post didn&#8217;t work as well the second time I visited, and I was asked to leave by police a few minutes after I parked at around 1AM, though I was able to find a few places in other neighborhoods that worked OK. You just have to be willing to move a lot, or stay very, very, very far away from anything worth seeing/doing in LA.</p>
<p>The next time I visit LA (if I can&#8217;t avoid it), I plan to do what I did when I visited New York City and Detroit. I placed an ad on craigslist, looking for someone with a long driveway in a reasonable location, and offering to pay a few hundred bucks to park there for a few weeks. Worked out great in both cases, though I was still farther out of NYC (ended up in Ridgewood, NJ, staying with an awesome lady who&#8217;s restoring an old Minnie Winnie) than I would have liked. LA has a lot more driveways than NYC, though, so I suspect I can find something there.</p>
<p>San Diego, on the other hand, was always fine. I parked in a couple of different neighborhoods, and never had any complaints. And also spent some time at an RV park on Mission Bay, which was nice, and only slightly overpriced, given the cost of real estate in the area. So, as southern California cities go, San Diego is better for RVers than LA, though seeing Venice and some other stuff in LA is worth doing&#8230;once.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caryn,

Nope, I am gainfully employed with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virtualmin.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my own company&lt;/a&gt;, and have no desire to take on any other work. I&#039;m also probably not a qualifying genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caryn,</p>
<p>Nope, I am gainfully employed with <a href="http://www.virtualmin.com" rel="nofollow">my own company</a>, and have no desire to take on any other work. I&#8217;m also probably not a qualifying genius.</p>
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		<title>By: andyeverywhere</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article - we&#039;re heading there now and then LA and any up to the minute cheap or free parking suggestions would be most welcome. Also, if you&#039;re still cruising about - I got a website that needs tweaking... (www.earthcircuit.org) - we&#039;ll buy the wine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article &#8211; we&#8217;re heading there now and then LA and any up to the minute cheap or free parking suggestions would be most welcome. Also, if you&#8217;re still cruising about &#8211; I got a website that needs tweaking&#8230; (www.earthcircuit.org) &#8211; we&#8217;ll buy the wine.</p>
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		<title>By: caryn</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Also are you seeking permanent work? 
My daughter same one I was speaking of is a CEO at a Large Gaming Co Xfire &quot;well I think thats what they do&quot; But she&#039;s seeking developers right now, geniuses only. 
I dont know how you can reply to me, but you can search me anywhere &amp; find my contact info Caryn Moss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Also are you seeking permanent work?<br />
My daughter same one I was speaking of is a CEO at a Large Gaming Co Xfire &#8220;well I think thats what they do&#8221; But she&#8217;s seeking developers right now, geniuses only.<br />
I dont know how you can reply to me, but you can search me anywhere &amp; find my contact info Caryn Moss.</p>
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		<title>By: caryn</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there any place to park a RV monthly around Venice. We live in Burbank my daughter works in Venice, my friend has an RV just sitting &amp; my kid wants to bring it to a space that she can rent monthly or have a lease.
any ideas out there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there any place to park a RV monthly around Venice. We live in Burbank my daughter works in Venice, my friend has an RV just sitting &amp; my kid wants to bring it to a space that she can rent monthly or have a lease.<br />
any ideas out there</p>
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		<title>By: toasty redhead</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 02:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought of it that way, well put!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought of it that way, well put!</p>
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		<title>By: Canucklehead</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a family of four Canadians, who sold our house in Calgary and bought a motorhome to travel in with our 7 and 9 yr old, and are currently in the LA area.  We want to expose our (well-informed/mature) children to the great diversity this state (AND nation) has to offer, and part of that includes exposure to all socio-economic groups as well as eclectic/varied ideologies.  Venice beach boondocking may be the perfect place to spend a night or two; best of all, it sounds like it will be reminiscent of our experiences on the Gulf Islands in the Strait of Georgia.  Kudos to all who defend those with a different perspective on life (despite agreement or disagreement).  And btw, we are currently paying $50.00 per night to stay on Malibu Beach with all the other rich folk!  haha.  

Enjoy life - it&#039;s way too short to be spent aggressively disputing who owns what view...or viewpoints (for that matter).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a family of four Canadians, who sold our house in Calgary and bought a motorhome to travel in with our 7 and 9 yr old, and are currently in the LA area.  We want to expose our (well-informed/mature) children to the great diversity this state (AND nation) has to offer, and part of that includes exposure to all socio-economic groups as well as eclectic/varied ideologies.  Venice beach boondocking may be the perfect place to spend a night or two; best of all, it sounds like it will be reminiscent of our experiences on the Gulf Islands in the Strait of Georgia.  Kudos to all who defend those with a different perspective on life (despite agreement or disagreement).  And btw, we are currently paying $50.00 per night to stay on Malibu Beach with all the other rich folk!  haha.  </p>
<p>Enjoy life &#8211; it&#8217;s way too short to be spent aggressively disputing who owns what view&#8230;or viewpoints (for that matter).</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 11:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed completely. Venice is a weird case, and unlike any other city I&#039;ve visited. The fact that there are zero RV parks in Los Angeles (Dockweiler doesn&#039;t count, as it&#039;s incredibly expensive, in the wrong place, and only allows people to stay for 14 days) makes it particularly problematic. Nearly all cities I&#039;ve visited have a population of people that live permanently in RVs, but they&#039;re usually mostly tucked away in extended stay RV parks (that cost a few hundred per month, which puts them into reach of the folks who currently pay $9-$18/day to park in the beach lot in Venice). But, if you want to live in Los Angeles in an RV, you simply don&#039;t have that option.

It&#039;s actually really strange to visit Los Angeles and Venice because in most places, people are excited to see RVs. RVs mean big tourist dollars in most places, but the culture and lack of RV parks in LA/Venice guarantees that the rich RVers skip the city entirely, so all that remains are the folks with no money and ugly old rigs. It&#039;d be simple to solve the problem, I think, by letting extended stay RV parks exist outside of the normal hotel tax requirements. I&#039;ve noticed some cities do that, and I&#039;ve also noticed that LA has much higher than average occupancy taxes, so I think there&#039;s some unintended consequences happening there. But, real estate prices may also be a contributing factor, though San Diego has some great parks with fair prices in reasonably good locations within the city, and the real estate there isn&#039;t dramatically cheaper than LA, so I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a complete explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed completely. Venice is a weird case, and unlike any other city I&#8217;ve visited. The fact that there are zero RV parks in Los Angeles (Dockweiler doesn&#8217;t count, as it&#8217;s incredibly expensive, in the wrong place, and only allows people to stay for 14 days) makes it particularly problematic. Nearly all cities I&#8217;ve visited have a population of people that live permanently in RVs, but they&#8217;re usually mostly tucked away in extended stay RV parks (that cost a few hundred per month, which puts them into reach of the folks who currently pay $9-$18/day to park in the beach lot in Venice). But, if you want to live in Los Angeles in an RV, you simply don&#8217;t have that option.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually really strange to visit Los Angeles and Venice because in most places, people are excited to see RVs. RVs mean big tourist dollars in most places, but the culture and lack of RV parks in LA/Venice guarantees that the rich RVers skip the city entirely, so all that remains are the folks with no money and ugly old rigs. It&#8217;d be simple to solve the problem, I think, by letting extended stay RV parks exist outside of the normal hotel tax requirements. I&#8217;ve noticed some cities do that, and I&#8217;ve also noticed that LA has much higher than average occupancy taxes, so I think there&#8217;s some unintended consequences happening there. But, real estate prices may also be a contributing factor, though San Diego has some great parks with fair prices in reasonably good locations within the city, and the real estate there isn&#8217;t dramatically cheaper than LA, so I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a complete explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been visiting Venice now for a little over a week, in my 21 foot &#039;86 Toyota motorhome..  Mixed opinions on this place, but overall nice. Never hassled by the cops but definitely have felt the wrath of some of the residents, who are, understandably, fed up with the swarm of ugly old motorhomes, that really are impossible to ignore.  I drove by one high school football field that had only RVs parked from one end of the block to the other - not soccer moms, but beat up old eyesores that the citizens probably shouldn&#039;t have to endure the sight of.  My restored old Toyota&#039;s not the prettiest thing on the road, but these were dilapidated shacks that hardly looked operational.  I would have liked to respond to the &quot;get the fuck out of town&quot; jeers with &quot; I&#039;m not a homeless squatter, just travelling through&quot;, but I don&#039;t think it would have mattered anyway..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been visiting Venice now for a little over a week, in my 21 foot &#8217;86 Toyota motorhome..  Mixed opinions on this place, but overall nice. Never hassled by the cops but definitely have felt the wrath of some of the residents, who are, understandably, fed up with the swarm of ugly old motorhomes, that really are impossible to ignore.  I drove by one high school football field that had only RVs parked from one end of the block to the other &#8211; not soccer moms, but beat up old eyesores that the citizens probably shouldn&#8217;t have to endure the sight of.  My restored old Toyota&#8217;s not the prettiest thing on the road, but these were dilapidated shacks that hardly looked operational.  I would have liked to respond to the &#8220;get the fuck out of town&#8221; jeers with &#8221; I&#8217;m not a homeless squatter, just travelling through&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t think it would have mattered anyway..</p>
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		<title>By: JAZ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOE, 
I commend you for your blog. I think that what you are doing, roaming around in your RV is FINE!!! You pay taxes, you upkeep your RV, keep it registered, and move around frequently with respect for the locals in mind.

HOWEVER, what M@X is saying is completely true. YOU are the EXCEPTION to the rule. These people DO NOT pay taxes, do NOT contribute to the community, and only TAKE and abuse the system that was put in place for good people like you. 

People who work VERY hard and pay LOTS of money to live a nice, clean, peaceful life here in Venice (like myself) find it a complete slap in the face that you would say &quot;if you dont like the trashy disrespectful bullshit the RV dwellers display on a daily basis then MOVE&quot;.

These people are NOT just passing through. If we work hard and pay our dues then these people have no right to LITERALLY shit on our yards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOE,<br />
I commend you for your blog. I think that what you are doing, roaming around in your RV is FINE!!! You pay taxes, you upkeep your RV, keep it registered, and move around frequently with respect for the locals in mind.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, what M@X is saying is completely true. YOU are the EXCEPTION to the rule. These people DO NOT pay taxes, do NOT contribute to the community, and only TAKE and abuse the system that was put in place for good people like you. </p>
<p>People who work VERY hard and pay LOTS of money to live a nice, clean, peaceful life here in Venice (like myself) find it a complete slap in the face that you would say &#8220;if you dont like the trashy disrespectful bullshit the RV dwellers display on a daily basis then MOVE&#8221;.</p>
<p>These people are NOT just passing through. If we work hard and pay our dues then these people have no right to LITERALLY shit on our yards.</p>
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